The Gustonomics Podcast
Join Gusto’s Lead Economist, Liz Wilke, as she charts the economic landscape for busy owners of 21st-century businesses. In each 10-minute episode, Liz discusses economic concepts and trends for entrepreneurs who want to make smarter business decisions in a changing world.
Episodes

Jun 19, 2024
Jun 19, 2024
18 min
The economy has been incredibly resilient in the wake of the pandemic, strong even. Yet survey after survey continues to show that many people don’t share that perspective. In this episode, Caleb and Liz discuss this phenomenon, the contradictions within it, and how we can separate reality from all the noise.
Shownotes
Anger about the economy is everywhere [Stay-At-Home Macro (SAHM)]

Jun 5, 2024
Jun 5, 2024
21 min
Revisions to economic data are crucial so users of that data have the most accurate and current information possible. Still, recent revisions to the Bureau of Labor Statistics’s monthly job report have been larger than some observers would like. Caleb and Liz discuss the trend and how we can think about them in the broader business climate.
Shownotes
The Employment Situation [BLS]

May 22, 2024
May 22, 2024
19 min
The economy continues to defy expectations, remaining strong in many fundamental areas despite many warnings of tough times ahead. In this episode, Caleb and Liz discuss the latest jobs report, inflation, interest rates, and the other factors that are keeping the economy in fine shape.
Shownotes
The Employment Situation [BLS]

May 8, 2024
May 8, 2024
22 min
There’s a widespread belief that Millennials are fickle job-hoppers. And while that may be true, particularly early in their careers, data shows that they’ve been about as likely to change jobs as Baby Boomers were at the same age. Caleb and Liz discuss the trends, possible explanations, and what employers should think about when it comes to hiring and employee retention.
Shownotes
National Longitudinal Surveys [BLS]
Boomers data: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/nlsoy.nr0.htm
Millennials data: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/nlsyth.nr0.htm
Job losers as % of total unemployed: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13023622

Apr 24, 2024
Apr 24, 2024
18 min
Gusto’s third annual New Business Formation report found that the entrepreneurship surge that began during the COVID-19 pandemic continued in 2023. Caleb and Liz discuss some of the report’s key findings, including the impact of artificial intelligence and remote/hybrid work.
Shownotes
2024 New Business Formation Report [Gusto]

Apr 10, 2024
Apr 10, 2024
36 min
Housing is one of the hottest topics in economics right now, and it’s no wonder. It reaches all corners of the country, and countless small businesses are impacted by its effects. In this episode, Liz welcomes one the foremost minds on the subject: Orphe Divounguy, Senior Economist at Zillow.
Shownotes
Orphe Divounguy [Zillow]
Orphe Divounguy [LinkedIn]
Everyday Economics [Apple Podcasts]

Mar 27, 2024
Mar 27, 2024
16 min
A recent analysis of Gusto data by researchers from Stanford University, ITAM, the Hoover Institution and the Gustonomics team found that Americans are living farther away from their employers. Caleb and Liz discuss the findings, what they indicate, and the current state of the remote/hybrid work evolution in America.
Shownotes
Americans Now Live Farther From Their Employers [Gusto Blog]
Americans Now Live Farther from Their Employers [Gusto, Stanford, ITAM, Hoover Institution]

Mar 13, 2024
Mar 13, 2024
13 min
New reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics—JOLTS and The Employment Situation—show that the economy is….fine. Not bad, but also not great. Employers and workers are both biding their time, an economic phenomenon that Liz has coined as The Great Wait.
Shownotes
JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – JANUARY 2024 [BLS]
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- FEBRUARY 2024 [BLS]

Feb 28, 2024
Feb 28, 2024
10 min
There’s been a lot of discussion around marriage in economic circles lately, so Liz and Caleb take up the topic in this episode, putting into perspective for small business owners and entrepreneurs.

Feb 21, 2024
Feb 21, 2024
5 min
Like all fields, economics has a language all its own, and more than its fair share of acronyms. In this bonus episode, Liz explains one of those acronyms--JOLTS--that was in the news lately, what you should know about it, and how it's relevant to business owners.






